On his live streaming channel, Trainwreckstv has prominently displayed a banner claiming, 'PRAGMATIC PLAY ARE SCAMMERS DO NOT PLAY THEM!'.
What are your thoughts on the situation? Personally, I’m skeptical about any relation to slot games since they're likely operating with virtual funds. It seems more like a contractual disagreement or some affiliations are at odds.
It’s glaringly obvious something has gone awry between Pragmatic Play and Trainwreckstv. It’s tough to believe that Pragmatic Play hasn’t been paying these streamers to feature their games.
The situation is laughable: someone notorious for scamming is bemoaning about other scammers, all while sitting on a million-dollar balance doing extravagant thousand-dollar spins. The irony is thick.
i was there, haha
Honestly, I find his actions puzzling. Despite winning a significant amount today, he didn't cash out but went on to another game where he lost it all. Personally, when I gamble, if I don't see any success after a hundred spins, I cut my losses.
Honestly, I find his actions puzzling. Despite winning a significant amount today, he didn't cash out but went on to another game where he lost it all. Personally, when I gamble, if I don't see any success after a hundred spins, I cut my losses.
Consider what it's like to gamble with pretend money!
In truth, although Pragmatic can sometimes seem lackluster, they are among the top-tier providers in the gambling world. Dry spells are typical of gambling in general.
I struggle to believe that guy is risking real cash, and it's baffling how he continues to draw such a large viewership.
This sounds a lot like my own experiences during a losing streak when I end up blaming the provider instead.
Is there still a substantial audience for Trainwreck's streams?
I’m inclined to agree that he’s probably using play money, especially given the absurdity of his betting stakes.
To be honest, it doesn’t seem likely that Trainwreckstv relies on fake balances. It's essential to remember how long he has been involved with Stake, which probably translates into having a wide network of affiliates that give him a percentage of their wagers—perhaps around 10%. He has also mentioned receiving $300 million from Stake over a two-year period, which he likely maintains as crypto, avoiding cashing out due to potential tax complications and governmental scrutiny.
I'm intrigued by these kinds of streamers. If they can afford such extravagant $2,000 bets, why continue streaming? What's the real advantage to them?
Their accounts consist entirely of demo funds provided by their affiliate casinos, but there's no in-depth exploration of how they benefit profit-wise.
@basta I believe the dynamics between the streaming and provider communities play a significant role here: Historically, providers would sponsor high-profile streamers to showcase their games for specific play sessions. While some still do, heavyweights like Pragmatic Play might not need to depend as much on such collaborations today.
It’s plausible that Pragmatic doesn’t compensate this streamer anymore to showcase their games—at least not overtly—which could be why he refers to them as scammers now. Many streamers aim for major wins and dynamic content, but Pragmatic Play’s slots aren’t typically designed for such consistency. This is also true for ELK Studios, whose games similarly don’t suit the high-stakes persona that chases colossal wins. This might explain Trainwreck’s apparent absence from playing such games.
Interestingly, one of his notable early successes involved a game from Pragmatic Play, specifically titled Might of Ra. Back in the day, he was quite a frequent player of Pragmatic games.